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**n00b1n8R** · June 6th, 2011 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by TVTyrant

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**TVTyrant** · June 6th, 2011 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by n00b1n8R

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**Bodzilla** · June 6th, 2011 04:40 AM

yeah i watched it, it's in night vision.

p lulz

**Cortexian** · June 14th, 2011 08:27 PM

The footage they emailed is believed to have been filmed by American special forces in Afghanistan

Red flag for fake.

**n00b1n8R** · June 25th, 2011 11:19 PM

http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/al...he-daddy.thtml

At a stroke, the one thing that women had going for them has been taken away, the one respect in which they had the last laugh over their husbands and lovers. DNA tests are an anti-feminist appliance of science, a change in the balance of power between the sexes that we’ve hardly come to terms with.

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Uncertainty allows mothers to select for their children the father who would be best for them.

**Donut** · June 26th, 2011 12:15 AM

that article... wow.

**TeeKup** · June 26th, 2011 06:29 AM

A few questions for Ms McDonagh:

1. Do women have any "moral obligations" or are these limited to men who happen to draw the short straw when a promiscuous, "choice"-happy female seeks to subject hims to extortion and at the same time deprive the child and the child's true father of their moral right to know one another?

2. Does she have any sons and, if so, does she ever reflect on the logical consequences of her opinions in their future lives?

3. What "God" was A.C. Graying crediting with "knowing" about this stuff?

"DNA tests are an anti-feminist appliance of science, a change in the balance of power between the sexes that we’ve hardly come to terms with."

And there was me thinking that feminism was all about equality between the sexes. Seeing as men

"The actor Jude Law recently found himself in just this position, and unhesitatingly and ungallantly demanded a DNA test. "

So, gallantry is taking responsibilty for a womans mistakes? Must we me be martyrs to a womans infidelity?

"Uncertainty allows mothers to select for their children the father who would be best for them."

Why stop there? If lack of involvement in the conception of the child should be no barrier to a woman picking the best man for the job of "father", why limit her choices to the men she has recently slept with? Why not let her just chose any man? So the girl who gets herself knocked up by the drummer from the band can take her pick of the "nice guys" she wouldn't normally deign to sleep with just because they will be better providers?

"You can feel quite as much tenderness for a child you mistakenly think to be yours as for one who is."

The lack logic in this statement is astounding. If you "mistakenly think [the child] to be yours" then of course you will feel tenderness towards them. The point is most men do not want to invest their time and time resources in a child that is not theirs - especially if it effectively robs them from having their own childen at some point.

"Scientific certainty has produced clarity all right, and relieved any number of men of their moral obligations, but at God knows what cost in misery, recrimination and guilt."

What moral obligation does a man have to parent children he did not conceive? Does having sex with a woman consign a man to be morally responsible for anything that happens to her for the rest of her life? If so, I'd like that priviledge extended to men - if I have sex with a woman then she should be responsible for doing my laundry and cooking my meals? Feminism fought for the removal of that kind of obligation but obviously not for men.

"But in making paternity conditional on a test rather than the say-so of the mother, it has removed from women a powerful instrument of choice."

What about the choice not to be held accountable for an action that one didn't commit?

I'm amazed that the editor(s) of The Spectator have allowed this article to be published and even more amazed that Melanie MdDonagh got paid for writing this misandrist claptrap.

All of that.

**Bodzilla** · June 26th, 2011 06:40 AM

Feminism has been a crock of shit for 30 years.

before then it actually stood for something, Maybe, just maybe i'd be better to take all that energy they're devoting against boogey men and focus it on places outside their country where it'd actually be applicable, rather then try to tread over the men who support equality between the sex's and ostracizing them thereby sowing the seeds for them to be made to force-ably submit to men in the future when they've finally had enough of their crazy mindgame shit.