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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    Alright cool, thanks.
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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    Looking at picking up a solid state for christmas. I'll be relying on my hdds for data storage so I guess I'm mainly looking at speed/reliability. Planning on dropping Windows, Autodesk/Adobe suites, other productivity software, starcraft 2, and maybe another game onto it. I have a couple in mind, but I still don't know too much about them.

    PCIe vs SATA3? Is it just me or is there not much of a difference until you use multiple lanes?
    IOPS? Just take this as a 'it blows away hdds' statement or more of a multitasking kind of thing?
    What are the failure and degradation rates nowadays?
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    Degradation has been significantly slowed by TRIM and other proprietary garbage collection methods put in place by each manufacturer. As for failure rates, the SSD market is still fairly new so I would expect that failure rates are still higher than your top-end 7,200rpm HDD.

    For a regular desktop drive the SATA III drives seem to be fine, I've found that the PCI-E drives are usually only worth going for if you need some silly amount of SSD storage (1TB+). From what I've read the PCI-E SSD's can't get TRIM commands from the Intel drivers, so degradation is likely higher since the drive relies completely on its own garbage collection methods.

    I'm also hoping to pickup an SSD for Christmas, and I'm looking at getting either one of the newer Intel drives or a Crucial M4. These two companies seem to have the best track record with SSD's so far. I'm leaning towards the Crucial because I'm hoping to get a 256~GB SSD since my boot drive usually sits around that with all my games and such installed.
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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    Just don't buy any ssd from OCZ and you'll be fine. Intel's stuff is really nice, as are the crucial M4. Got two computers with Intel's old x25-m 80GBs and one with a new Crucial M4 and they're doing great. The x-25Ms are nearing two years of use and have no degradation.
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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    Well, from what I've read OCZ has really stepped up their game and doesn't suck anymore. Perhaps that was just with their top tier stuff? I know they finally worked out their own controller, but surely the Sandforce controllers they've used aren't utter fail. I'm drawn to the reliability of the Intel ssds, but they're significantly slower.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227759

    One of the drives I was considering because of priceerformance:storage was OCZ. :\
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    When I was at Memory Express last and inquiring about SSD's the guy said OCZ SSD's have a return rate of about 1/2. He said he wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole and a couple other employees who happened to be standing near at the time agreed.
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    Been perusing the reviews for their older SSDs. I think these things just don't like laptops. I've yet to run into a desktop user with a problem.
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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    I'm also looking for some DVI cables, so I can 3 screen game. I need 3 cables, good price but not crap, doesn't need to be that long. I found these, not sure how good they are because there aren't many reviews on them.
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    They're short.
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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    Well the way my desk is, my desktop is right next to the monitors. So length isn't really an issue.
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