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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    I've read June at the earliest.
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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    Quote Originally Posted by JackalStomper View Post
    Not looking at any radeon, I still have nightmares about their horrible drivers.
    You should consider AMD. Drivers aren't as fucked as they used to be (8+ years ago). nVidia is the one with all the driver mishaps.
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    Haven't had any Nvidia driver mishaps since ever.

    Nvidia driver updates just improve performance, they rarely fix flaws.
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    We know. That's why you are now going through your second GPU in a relatively short time frame, right?

    As for me, I'm thinking of just going Z68 now, and here's why:

    By the time performance requirements for software has made any Sandy-Bridge /SNB-E CPUs as obsolete as my Athlon 64 3200+, we will have progressed at least TWO enthusiast generations from now (X99?). Combine that with the fact that SNB-E is not appreciably better than SNB unless you do extreme productivity, the high cost of motherboards, and the fact that SNB already has 8 logical cores, and there is nothing for it. I can wait two weeks for C2 stepping, but X79 is just as dead as Z68. Or, I can buy now and be just as well off. I sincerely doubt IVB will be much better than SNB, and it for sure will have a greater impact on the mobile landscape than on the desktop.

    I would like to have the ability to just throw 4 more DIMMs into my computer to increase RAM and I would like the full x16 width PCI-E lanes, but with Intel giving us the stick, there's nothing for it. They are hell-bent on two-year platform refreshes, now demolishing any hope you have at investing in an enthusiast platform. I doubt we'll ever see another LGA 775 or X58.

    Then there's price, but price isn't really in play here.

    Thoughts?

    E: The PCI-E 2.0 8x nature of multi-card configs on Z68 is also a known bottleneck to high end video cards. Rectified by dropping an IVB CPU into the slot to enable PCI-E 3.0, but that's a stupid upgrade if you already have SNB. X79 is PCI-E 3.0 capable out of the gate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warsaw View Post
    We know. That's why you are now going through your second GPU in a relatively short time frame, right?
    Why yes, I am going through my second refurbished RMA GPU in a relatively short period of time. Actually it's my fourth replacement card, but I never expect much from refurbished cards from RMA departments.

    Also, it looks like it may not be my GPU. I have one more card to test on my second GPU slot but individually the cards have been working fine so far...
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    Refurb or not, you still have to keep on replacing it. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not have to keep diving in to fix something. It's like having to bring your car into the shop every six months because your transmission keeps breaking in one way or another (read: my car is a PoS).
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    True, but it's the same for all refub cards most of the time. And it's not related to drivers AT ALL, those were my main points.

    I'm not really sure what's causing it. What do you guys think it could be if it only happens when both cards in in the system in SLI mode?
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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    Quote Originally Posted by Warsaw View Post
    Refurb or not, you still have to keep on replacing it. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not have to keep diving in to fix something. It's like having to bring your car into the shop every six months because your transmission keeps breaking in one way or another (read: my car is a PoS).
    Sounds a bit like the UK's MOT system.

    E/ make sure your PSU is not on the fringe.
    You can get tools to test how much life is left, the other option is if the cards work in other systems and it's SLI it may be your motherboard is packing heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cortexian View Post
    True, but it's the same for all refub cards most of the time. And it's not related to drivers AT ALL, those were my main points.

    I'm not really sure what's causing it. What do you guys think it could be if it only happens when both cards in in the system in SLI mode?
    Bad SLI bridge? Motherboard-bound issue? CPU getting too hot, causing issues with PCI-E cross-talk?

    And yeah, it's also the same for used cars. Seems like a great deal at the time of purchase, but then you find out why it was such a bargain.
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    Radeon 7950s are out or something, have fun

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5476/a...on-7950-review
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