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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    As a bit of a PSA announcement, if you're building a new computer, DDR 4 has an official launch date, and according to newegg crucial is the first stick brand to market. Obviously, it's really expensive right now but it does seem as DDR3 is on its way out.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rder=BESTMATCH
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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    how good is the DDR4 comparatively?

    I've been doing trial and error to solve my PC problem. the only thing is i've had to buy the parts to do it ;(.

    Next stop is either mobo, Ram or CPU which basically means i gotta do a full upgrade sigh.

    so is the DDR3 worth waiting for?
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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    According to the spec sheet DDR4's speed bottoms out right about where DDR3 tops out at, and consumes like half the power while allowing for 16 GB single sticks. It's hella expensive per stick right now though.

    Other than that, I have yet to hear of any reviews. I assume arstechnica or techreport will have a benchmark for DDR4 as soon as it launches later this month.
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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodzilla View Post
    how good is the DDR4 comparatively?

    I've been doing trial and error to solve my PC problem. the only thing is i've had to buy the parts to do it ;(.

    Next stop is either mobo, Ram or CPU which basically means i gotta do a full upgrade sigh.

    so is the DDR3 worth waiting for?
    Bandwidth increases, but latency also increases for these launch modules. It's a good thing for servers looking for higher density.
    As always with RAM transitions, don't buy new things just because of new memory. If the CPU/mobo that you're looking at has a DDR4 chipset, get DDR4. The theoretical higher clockspeeds are nice, but they aren't exactly here yet at what would be considered a decent latency.
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    I really hope this is the reason why AMD hasn't released a new desktop FX processor in quite a while (hopefully building a new architecture behind the scenes with strong single threaded performance, etc). If that's the case I'd expect them to wait a bit for the prices to come down, while further improving their new architecture (if there is any). Just hope they don't drop out of the CPU/APU market.

    The only good thing about the APUs are their GPU and HSA (that doesn't seem to be going anywhere).
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    Quote Originally Posted by arbiter901 View Post
    I really hope this is the reason why AMD hasn't released a new desktop FX processor in quite a while (hopefully building a new architecture behind the scenes with strong single threaded performance, etc). If that's the case I'd expect them to wait a bit for the prices to come down, while further improving their new architecture (if there is any). Just hope they don't drop out of the CPU/APU market.

    The only good thing about the APUs are their GPU and HSA (that doesn't seem to be going anywhere).
    Nah, AMD just messed up. They made a good preforming chip, but it had a very high TDP and they didn't want to sell it with their FX line. They haven't released a new FX chip because the high TDP one greatly outpreformed what they've had.
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    Wouldn't that mean something new is in the works? I have a 8350 and it performs pretty good in heavily threaded tasks. It's the single threaded tasks that kinda suck. I would expect for them to atleast bring the APUs up to or very close to intel speeds.
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    Re: Building a computer? Need advice/suggestions? Come here!

    Quote Originally Posted by arbiter901 View Post
    Wouldn't that mean something new is in the works? I have a 8350 and it performs pretty good in heavily threaded tasks. It's the single threaded tasks that kinda suck. I would expect for them to atleast bring the APUs up to or very close to intel speeds.
    Yeah, as soon as the die size per chip gets reduced for AMD, which GlobalFoundries (who makes the chips) i'm sure a new chip would be released. I, too, am hoping on an amd enthusiast chip but as long as they can't get the die smaller, they're kinda stuck. If GF had a 24 nm architecture up and running i'm sure AMD would still be competitive with intel. I'd even expect that their APU's would kick intel's integrated trash.
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    AMDs APU intergrated graphics already kick intels intergrated junk. The faster the RAM in your system the faster the graphics on the APU will be.
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    On Intel's side we should see DDR4 with X99 launching soon™
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