Yoyorast Countdown has end : no betatest, no release unfortunalty... for now

Send meh killcam.

Also, apparently it works with Rec0's app with the exception of the /destroy and such.

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Originally Posted by Limited

:D GJ Chris

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1153/xsmall.png

when you see it..you'll see it

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Is that tree there okay?....

Its perfectly feasible so why hasnt anyone thought to use OS to get doors and stuff to sync? Probably would allow for YoYo v2 to release by now and been less work for Ltd.

Can somebody explain me what is OS plz :confused2:

Open sauce is pretty much a whole new editing environment for Halo CE, and can pretty much be expanded into whatever the coder is able to do.

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Originally Posted by Pyong Kawaguchi

Open sauce is pretty much a whole new editing environment for Halo CE, and can pretty much be expanded into whatever the coder is able to do.

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but if a map is OS it requires players of that map to have the OS app in order to utilize any and all OS features on map

Basically what it does is it allows the programmer to manipulate in-game data.

For instance, one could get from a client that they are opening a door, and send that data to the servers who in turn sends that to the clients.

All of the extra networking would have to be coded unless you used chat to send the data.

Probly tmi but i digress.

Don't bother with it, not enough people use OS so it's going to heavily restrict who can play the map (probably why Inferno hasn't tried to use it yet anyway vOv)

With that reasoning, why develop for OS at all?

O ye ok... seems cool... but it's exactly what I don't want... I mean, have an extra app installed... I want every noob out there be able to play the map with basic CE.

I haven't been in the latest test, and I found some stuff no one else did in the earlier betas. GIVE MEH DA MAP!

Haha yeah... but it isnt that hard to install OS. How about you save the map's tag files when you release, just in case? I assume you're going to protect v2.

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Originally Posted by yoyorast

I want every noob out there be able to play the map with basic CE.

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Originally Posted by EX12693

I haven't been in the latest test, GIVE MEH DA MAP!

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I think he means when the map is released, so you gotta wait.

... I did it before... I'll do it again.

Good news.
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...37f7601d61.png

Server side likes me. Dedi side likes me. Everyone does! :iamafag:

2 of the 4 checks I made.

Well yoyo said I'll be testing tomorrow... so I might not like you...:gonk:

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Originally Posted by EX12693

Well yoyo said I'll be testing tomorrow... so I might not like you...:gonk:

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I will probably too, also I don't get your post

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Originally Posted by EX12693

Well yoyo said I'll be testing tomorrow... so I might not like you...:gonk:

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*Sigh* There are alot of opinions about how he acts,so dont ask:P

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Originally Posted by Inferno

Good news.


Server side likes me. Dedi side likes me. Everyone does! :iamafag:

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*gets excited*


no j/k i stopped caring after the last 100 failed betas.

Bacon you're not nearly enough of a pessimist.

<3

Get on xfire and AIM again. It's time for another failed beta!

hey
get the server up before 8 so i can actually play this time
:downs:

It's going to be up in a minute. Everyone get your asses online.

server ?

That was fun, and I didn't have any errors.

Fix the palm trees and give the splazor a pickup icon. Otherwise it was fun.

Where fixing last few issues on the map. Maybe one more test tommarow then release.

Teleporters work. Server syncs. Doors work.

Yoyorast Island 2 FINALLY works.

http://video.xfire.com/140d0c-4.jpg

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1103639/loli.jpg

I was talking about the beach panic room being busted in the video Inferno posted. That was a client-side graphics error that did not repeat itself. The shield looked on for me and me only, and was actually off. Not that big of a deal.

It seems it could be for tomorow.. but I don't want to rush it if it's not 100% done.
It's depending a lot on ShadowSpartan now who might have his protection system ready.. or not.. by tomorow...
Still needs to integrate a menu fix from Sinow.. and make this option menu work (resync option and low comp option) I nerver could test this yet...
Incorporate the update credit texture I just updated
Ferno, you won't have to forget to remove all server text appearing on screen also...

+ we'll have to test this (hopefully last build) on a real dedi... probably Freelancer's...

K see ya tomorow guys

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Originally Posted by sdavis117

I was talking about the beach panic room being busted in the video Inferno posted. That was a client-side graphics error that did not repeat itself. The shield looked on for me and me only, and was actually off. Not that big of a deal.

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God, I had this too in the yesterday build with e3po... this is a real issue.. damit

No, I was downloading a BF2142 update in the background. It was probably my fault.

If worse comes to worse, I have an alternate door syncing method. Although it would mean redoing all the door scripts.

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If worse comes to worse, I have an alternate door syncing method. Although it would mean redoing all the door scripts.

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No, I lied, everything worked perfectly. The door even cured my cancer.

Really, it isn't that big of a deal. Like I said, I was downloading some crap that probably messed with the script. No Script is perfect.

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No, I lied, everything worked perfectly. The door even cured my cancer.

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Finally, a cancer curing script. You have no idea how many people have been looking for that! Too bad they may rewrite it to attempt perfection. I guess release is still out of our grasp.:smith:

............Another test to make sure, mb?

why not, maybe call this one final beta?

ShadowSpartan is not showing him on AIM for now.. hope he gets on soon and he has his protection system ready...

Why protect the map if your going to release most of the content people would want in it ?

why protect a map at all, this is halo ce.

I'll be ready to test when you need me :D

Do you guys ever heard about exclusive content? Well, I believe success comes from the qualities of a product but if you can't find those, or some of those quality in other concurent products, this makes people want your product even more. I mean it's one key of the success.
I'm not sure the protection is not breakable... but it can protect the map for some time maybe... and, anyway, I'm asking people to respect the way I want it to be and don't try to extract anything... + if you guys wait like one more month, I guess Matooba will release the ATV to everyone... we had a deal about this.

Thanks guys

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Originally Posted by Ganon

why protect a map at all, this is halo ce.

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Why does it concern you? People have their reasons for protecting tags, just let it be.

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Originally Posted by yoyorast

I'm not sure the protection is not breakable... but it can protect the map for some time maybe... and, anyway, I'm asking people to respect the way I want it to be and don't try to extract anything...

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Any protection can be gotten past if you have a person who is determined enough to do so. And trust me, there are some bitches like that in this community. The current protection only makes it harder for people to extract the tags because there is only so much you can do with a map file. I only wish I had more time to finish my new protection method, but school has slowed down the progress of my programming projects.

Able to test this time~

Being sick sucks. It makes you all coughy and headachey and shit.

I'll work on yoyorast tomorrow when I'm not feeling like dieing.

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Originally Posted by Inferno

Being sick sucks. It makes you all coughy and headachey and shit.

I'll work on yoyorast tomorrow when I'm not feeling like dieing.

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I feel the same here

New little betatest right now for usual testers but no release today... there's some work remaining on the menu and Sinow is offline.. hope he'll show himself before late tomorow... tomrorow woud be a good day to release... ;)

My pc is being extremely laggy today =/ Sorry I can't attend.

i tried joining and it said it would not connect.
whatever

Probably just nit-picking but,
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...36cc3c97b8.jpg
Looks painful.

I'll re-do that I guess.

Also...


ENTIRE TEAM IS BABYS!

That test was awesome. I think that is releasable but were going to fine tune and touch up a few things before we do. :iamafag:

ENTIRE INFERNO IS MAGGOT

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/55967-1/n...ious_joker.jpg

I vry srs.

Look how srs. I'm about to go get my camera so I can take a picture of my face cause I'm so fucking srs right now guys.

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/53710-1/Good_good.jpg

Bad news , at the last minute of test Chris found and we could verify it, a sync problem with some doors.. Hope you can find out something to fix that man along with inferno..
Release maybe not for tomorow afterall unfortuantly.. :(

And about the idea of retouching the ATV driver anim, plz Ferno, drop the idea.. it's not perfect as it is , its true, but anyway there si a proportion problem between the ATV seat and the biped legs... you 'll be able to make the biped back not cross the bar but he'll find himself in a not so cool postion.. belive me, it has been so long and hard to reach this point.. it's satisfying.. we keep it as it is, thanks man.

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Originally Posted by yoyorast

Bad news , at the last minute of test Chris found and we could verify it, a sync problem with some doors.. Hope you can find out something to fix that man along with inferno..
Release maybe not for tomorow afterall unfortuantly.. :(

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Chris was lieing. That lieing liar. He lies more than Inferno uses Hax. Which is a lot. The scripts are perfect. They solve world hunger.

We all had doors that got stuck open. Something went wrong, cause Yoyo was able to see it fine, but some of us couldn't.

Inferno, message me tomorrow. I think I know what went wrong.

Nothing to worry about, just some dropped packets. Add some redundency to the doors.

btw, I was fucking around with one of the doors, so....

The doors shouldn't break from using them to much. That is something that would be expected to happen and should be made to withstand. Plus it was happening to 3 doors by my count.

ps i was spamming the buttons

Yes, I know. It should still be made to withstand that.

If not fixed, the noobs would join servers and spam the buttons just to make the map unplayable and / or crash it.

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/50318-1/y...kingnigger.jpg

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Yes, I know. It should still be made to withstand that.

If not fixed, the noobs would join servers and spam the buttons just to make the map unplayable and / or crash it.

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^^^^

That's why I suggest someone call up a willing programmer to integrate YoYoV2 with OS so doors can sync properly.

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That's why I suggest someone call up a willing programmer to integrate YoYoV2 with OS so doors can sync properly.

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Yoyo does not want to use OS, he has already stated that. I don't know what is so hard to understand about that. Yoyorast V2 will not be an OS required map, simple as that.

The only way that could work is if you actually made an installer that installed OS and the map at the same time. Instead of just a map download that you have to manually install you would download a .exe that installed the map and os to where people wouldn't even have to know what os was. But i'm not sure how all that would work out. Just a thought.

You wouldn't need an installer, all you'd have to do is package everything in the correct directory structure so that when you extract the files it puts the map in the maps folder and OS in the installation folder. Not hard at all, and all the noobs would even understand it once it didn't work and they went back and read the readme.txt that we'd include.

But it's not going to happen I don't think, so there's no need to debate it.

I'm still of the belief that the map works fine with Rec0's app as it is right now, as long as no one uses the /destroy, /lo3, or /reset commands. Yoyorast, can we test with the app sometime during the next test on my server?

Also,

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>picture<

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is the supposed to be the map loader screen for when the map starts up or what?

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You wouldn't need an installer, all you'd have to do is package everything in the correct directory structure so that when you extract the files it puts the map in the maps folder and OS in the installation folder. Not hard at all, and all the noobs would even understand it once it didn't work and they went back and read the readme.txt that we'd include.

But it's not going to happen I don't think, so there's no need to debate it.

I'm still of the belief that the map works fine with Rec0's app as it is right now, as long as no one uses the /destroy, /lo3, or /reset commands. Yoyorast, can we test with the app sometime during the next test on my server?

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Free, it's been a dam big luck we had yesterday to find the door sync problem... I mean problems are hided and it's compicated enough to find them that we're not going to add any potentiential problem caused by anykind of apps... I mean, not before during the "last" test, it's the last thing to do... or the 1st thing to do if you wanna get confused... once the map will be released you guys will be able to experiment alls the apps you want...

Nice pic by the way.

before release, may I suggest a closed beta test with more than 16 players? (2 Servers)

It would be more precise in finding any more bugs. Seriously, you can always test a map on one server, but evey time I turn around, others including myself end up finding bugs or issues within a finalized map that were NEVER caught during the test gameplays.

Basically, what I'm asking is that you broaden your testing area from a certain group of people.
Not now, but when the final beta is ready for testing.

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Free, it's been a dam big luck we had yesterday to find the door sync problem... I mean problems are hided and it's compicated enough to find them that we're not going to add any potentiential problem caused by anykind of apps...

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I found a shortcut that i made 5 out of 8 try's that should be fixed:

http://video.xfire.com/14310f-4.jpg

and a invisible wall next to it (not a big deal) but it makes a better shortcut if you can pull it off and make it over the high wall walk (witch i did another try (not in video)) and i didn't die by the death barrier the first time

http://video.xfire.com/14310f-4.jpg

Not a big deal really if you loose health.

you can skipp half of the track and go right to the flag with hog

There's a quicker way down than that as well, tough I won't go into any detail since it's known and extremely easy to do.

shouldn't some one add an invisible wall or something to prevent that

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shouldn't some one add an invisible wall or something to prevent that

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No more modeling is going to be done, I'm pretty sure that's been stated a lot already.

hmm, just sucks that new the yoyorast has a bunch of shortcuts

Dont use them, and you will be fine.

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Dont use them, and you will be fine.

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once the public knows them, everyone's gonna try and do them.

No map can like this can be perfect shortcut-wise. Leave it be.

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No map can like this can be perfect shortcut-wise. Leave it be.

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Nice use of words.

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No map can like this can be perfect shortcut-wise. Leave it be.

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I have to say this shortcut is annoying... dam

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I have to say this shortcut is annoying... dam

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Worse comes to worse, can't you create an invisible collision-only shortcut blocker scenery object? Might not be quite as durable as player clipping, but it wouldn't require a radiosity or bsp modification.

- Are you sure it would require a new radiosity? Cause this is one shortcut defenatly worth to fix... The other idea I have is to set the fall damage a little bit higher...
- The other thing to yet to be fixed is the door/shiled sync REAL problem, I couldn't talk to inferno bout this yet, Chris may have some idea on how to fix it...
Da map wont be out before these 2 things are fixed... so, it's not for today unfortunalty.. + inferno seems to be sicker than yesterday..

Fuck swine flu. It's the curse of yoyorast v2. We get close to release again and I get sick.

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You can't release YoyoV2. It is impossible.

I need a tactical -rep bomb on swine flu.

GO ROSSmUM!

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You can't release YoyoV2. It is impossible.

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It is like a parabola... there's one point where it will never reach without truncating what makes the gameplay.

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hmm, just sucks that new the yoyorast has a bunch of shortcuts

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shortcuts have always been a big part of what made yoyorast1 unique and fun, just as long as they weren't too game breaking.

Well, it's not like it matters. So what someone can get to the flag faster... they still have to go around the rest of the course, and they can just as easily be killed. I found a shortcut in a ghost that completely skips the beach, but yoyo didnt care. Why should we care about this one?

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Well, it's not like it matters. So what someone can get to the flag faster... they still have to go around the rest of the course, and they can just as easily be killed. I found a shortcut in a ghost that completely skips the beach, but yoyo didnt care. Why should we care about this one?

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You can't compare those 2 shortucuts man... I didn't care because it only maked you skip the beach.. taking this one, you skip the entire ramp from garage to beach + from beach to the place were he lands in the vid witch is half the entire track.
I know there's still some shortcuts in V2 but nothing big, the little ones remaining are part of the game... and guys dont tell me there's like a bunch of them in V2, I've spent the last 2 years with some partners to look and fix them by remodeling and remodeling again dam..

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Originally Posted by Inferno

Fuck swine flu. It's the curse of yoyorast v2. We get close to release again and I get sick.

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Oh yeah, Sorry bout that.

My throat is still exploding with pain. :saddowns: I just swallowed some Listerine. Yeah it's that bad.

What are the symptoms of a tonsil infection? I know that it makes your throat hurt bad but I can't remember. I've never had my tonsils out. :raise:

I'm going to go chill out with some crash free fallout 3.

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My throat is still exploding with pain. :saddowns: I just swallowed some Listerine. Yeah it's that bad.

What are the symptoms of a tonsil infection? I know that it makes your throat hurt bad but I can't remember. I've never had my tonsils out. :raise:

I'm going to go chill out with some crash free fallout 3.

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go get the enclave commander mod and the classic "advanced power armor" the second one is a addon that gives you classic fallout 2 armor

If mods actually worked...

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... and guys dont tell me there's like a bunch of them in V2, I've spent the last 2 years with some partners to look and fix them by remodeling and remodeling again dam..

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I wouldn't sweat them at all. You did extremely well on version 1, and I'm sure version 2 will be the same. Half the fun for a lot of us was to find the unintentional shortcuts that took time and practice to find and execute. You just can't predict how people are going to team up, park vehicles to use as ladders, or nade themselves or others to overcome obstacles. It's one of the greater parts of the Halo CE universe.

In about 5 years, I am sure there will be another hundred videos on Youtube showing how to shortcut from 'point a' to 'point b' using 'method a' or 'method b'. It's what people do. Especially when they can't get into their favorite servers, or while waiting patiently for someone to join their game. You just screw around trying to drive a hog into the walking path of the tunnels to set a trap, or find a shortcut that means you can toss a flag through a teleporter to a waiting teammate to save time. It ADDs a challenge and doesn't detract from the gameplay. You have spent a lot of time on the modeling already, and I thank you for that, because it's taken the map to a level that will require skill and time to get shortcuts. Just like version 1.