Dano, you are so fucking clueless. Rep doesn't cause problems. PEOPLE DO.Originally Posted by Ð4ÑØ *
Pencils don't misspell words.
Guns don't kill people.
Spoons don't make people fat.
Fires don't start themselves.
and REP DOESN'T CREATE PROBLEMS.
PEOPLE. FUCKING. DO. So please get that through your thick skull, Dano.
Fuck the rep system, what really needs to go is the fucking infraction system. It has more loopholes than a cheese grater, and it'd take ages to eliminate them all... and then more would pop up. Aside from that, it has no less potential for abuse than normal moderation.
I'm with Snaf. Oops, just realized-- to fix the real problem, the PEOPLE need to go.
Yay, let's kill all the people in the universe! That's a thought...I'm with Snaf. Oops, just realized-- to fix the real problem, the PEOPLE need to go.
but first, a word from our sponsors...
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(also I've been here for more than a year so that wasn't spam)
I don't care if you guys don't see my point. My point was - the rep system is useless, and we can all function perfectly fine without it. Just look at gearbox. You guys don't need it. You say yourselves that if you had no rep you wouldn't care, yet you care enough to whine about it staying?
Yes people are to blame, but people are what make up this forum, and you can't keep a system that holds them apart, regardless of their opinions. You have to accommodate for everyone. Especially if it's something as useless as rep. We should all be on the same level, and let our actions determine to people who are worth trusting.
When noobs see members with green boxes, they don't think:
"oh wow they must be highly respected, therefore i shall respect them and take whatever advice they dish out!"
which is the whole "purpose" of rep.
What they think is:
"awww how come they have all those green bars. I want heaps of green bars too. They've got something I don't have, and I want it."
thus conflict immediately sets in.
It doesn't separate the stupid people from the respectable, it separates all the people as a whole with the need to have something.
THAT is why newer members are so defensive about the lack of rep. It gets so fucking hyped up on this forum, they feel like a loser if they're not getting any. Then they start exploiting the rep and just senselessly repping people left right and center.
It just doesn't fucking work.
Well, whatever, I'm out of this thread. After arguing about arguing about rep I feel like a martyr and it's doing my head in trying to argue something that even pisses me off.
You say we should let peoples' actions define their reputation, yes? Well isn't that exactly what the rep system is for? If you say something people like, whether it's funny, helpful, or insightful, you'll get +. If you act like a dick, you'll get -. Those who instantly bitch and whine because they want a load of green bars too are dicks and should not be allowed here to begin with. Any halfway-decent new member will realise they need to earn those bars, and will set about doing so. In essence, you and all the other people saying the rep system is the problem or is useless are pretty much talking a whole load of crap. You just argued against it citing the very reason it exists, which tells me there isn't much strength behind the argument at all.
Those who beg for rep, needlessly spam it out to other members, harass other members for no reason at all or simply blame the system for their own abuse need to be removed, not the system itself.
I like bars; chocolate bars, candy bars, bars where you can hang out etc...
But I haven't fully grasped the idea behind this rep bar and why people so want a long green bar under their name.- to me.
BTW I forget, was this topic originally about rep? Or was it just so that we could all rant?
^ winning post, ergo /thread
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