Rant time!

[Rob Oplawar]

Oh heh, I forgot that it tells you how long someone has been a member right there in front of my face. In that case, I can tell you're a shameless lurker. I don't care how interested you are in reading the topics, if you don't post, imo you don't have a say when it comes to how to manage the threads.

Now look, the Offtopic Forum is pretty much what gives this forum its spice. Without it, save for the Gallery Topic and a few other threads, and if people completely cleaned up their acts, this forum would be nothing but "I have a question: " "here's your answer" "kthxbai". It would be boring. It wouldn't be a community, it would be an online help stop.

At the moment, this forum is doing an ok job of doing the online help thing, but at the same time it manages to have a great community, with lots of friends who like to talk about things not directly related to Halo modding in the off topic forum. Now I understand if you lurkers only want the online help with Halo modding bit, but look here, the people who actually do post with any regularity do care about things other than Halo modding and like to discuss it.

Wow, I suddenly got really defensive of the offtopic forum. I guess people get that way about their homeland.

[PlasbianX]

fap told me to put this into a thread, so here you go.

This forum has been going downhill for months. It started with CMT and even now they're 'gone', the filth they left is still here. I'm sick of seeing threads spammed to hell or turned into flamewars because of moronic fanboys and wannabe internet crusaders thinking some sod needs 'saving' from the 'cruel and horrible flamers' who are just being honest. I'm sick of seeing foul rubbish spouted in any thread about anything that doesn't conform perfectly to somebody and his borderline neo-Nazi, extremist views. I'm sick of certain people constantly bitch-whinging about Metroid even though he stopped trolling long ago. But worst of all, nothing has been done about it at all. Dole was banned for - wait for it - a week, after Dr had the decency to go warn some of his posts (including his little hate-sprees on Russians and homosexuals) which I'd reported at least a month earlier. Timo, Ghost and jfap are almost never on, and Zeph is too busy with college and his little pranks to really do shit. As a result, even the attempts at intelligent discussion get driven into the mud by idiotic bickering over the most petty of details, and the few threads that the mods actually bother to lock are locked about 30-odd pages after they went off the rails.

Quite frankly, I believe this site is in need of a major reform - like the one we had when the new theme was installed, except focusing on cleaning out users rather than threads. Long-time members, myself included, are allowed to get away with nothing short of blue murder without so much as a slap on the wrist, while not-so-established members are either banned for a mere week for something that warrants at least a month, or are absolutely raped with infractions for one moment of stupidity. Being 'fair' has turned into 'doing the least amount of warning possible to keep the masses happy', and even the new detention section set up specifically for repeat offenders so the staff can discuss their situation with them has seen almost no use whatsoever. Decent threads where people could discover new things or learn about each other's tastes in music were deleted as 'spam', despite the fact that they contained less spam than most other threads.

Some action needs to be taken, and fast. I know that a lot of us came here to escape Gearbox as it was gradually overrun by stupidity - jumping ship before it went down, as it were - but without something being done, this site will go exactly the same way, and then where do we go?

I agree. I dont even check out the halo ce / h2v forums anymore. I just wanted my clipboard thread (which was taken away. GG.) and i occasionally glance into the halo 3 forum and the offtopic one for news. But now with the clipboard thread, and the current mods, (zeph, i think you are the worlds BIGGEST ASSFUCK EVER.) I dont even wanna check these out anymore. Ill have more fun reading the Supremel2 forums, and L2guru. Cya around.

[Kornman00]

ross stopped caring about his post count a while ago

, if only that were true...

[TeeKup]

I only created this account as Gearbox was dying. Check out my gearbox account.


Appointing some who calls himself a post whore is idiotic. Dont' know Atty that much though, seems to be pretty intelligent and independent though.



I'm trying to suggest some ways to help the web site. Not posting about going to the store and buying cookies. All my posts are all H2Vista related. I have argued about politics on this board but I usually pay attention to the Halo3 board and the H2 vista boards.

I don't know if you heard of the straw-man fallacy but you argument is an excellent example.

I would like to congratulate you on such an extremely ignorant post.

I'd like to be a mod, however I don't have much access to this computer as much as I'd like. I don't think I'm biased towards anybody, not recently anyway. However Jcap would never make me one.

[Emmzee]

Appointing some who calls himself a post whore is idiotic.

At least Ross can admit his flaws, unlike, say, you.

[Gamerkd16]

Wow, I actually agree with you on something:

Long-time members, myself included, are allowed to get away with nothing short of blue murder without so much as a slap on the wrist, while not-so-established members are either banned for a mere week for something that warrants at least a month, or are absolutely raped with infractions for one moment of stupidity. Being 'fair' has turned into 'doing the least amount of warning possible to keep the masses happy', and even the new detention section set up specifically for repeat offenders so the staff can discuss their situation with them has seen almost no use whatsoever.

I find it funny though how the top members of these forums have lives and are never here.

[Stormwing]

tl;dr.

seriously. It's the fuckin internet. It's never fair. There are the totally stupid idiots trolling, the noobtards who think they know everything making loads of flamebait posts, and the veterans who think feel like they can go bossing everyone around.

There can be no equilibrium. Partial internet anonymity brings out the extremes in everyone, and extremes don't work too well with each other. You just have to keep the idiocy and faggotry at bay well enough to keep things smooth. No amount of ranting and arguing can get you anywhere.

To the point: My idea? More unbiased mods plz. Or just keep things the way they are and suck it up and/or ignore the retards. The internet is a sea of stupid, you gotta just deal with it.

[Gamerkd16]

This is my kind of thread!

[Bodzilla]

The biggest Problem we seem to be having is: shit posts, bad threads and the time it takes for Admins to react to these.

So why not create a new sublayer of moderating that allows people to deal with just that.

Let me explain.
I believe the system should be based on Appointed members with a long history of Unbiased Critisim and who have been Repped accordingly and are Active.
We put these select people into a Different user group called "Power user's" and give them Limited ability on how the forums are run.
They can lock, edit posts and give out Warns no greater then 2 points. And if the power user's Vote unaminously they have the power to suspend people for a limited amount of time.... and thats all they can do.

That way they cant get out of hand, abuse there powers yet can go a long way to help the tidy up general maintenace.

[Pooky]

The biggest Problem we seem to be having is: shit posts, bad threads and the time it takes for Admins to react to these.

So why not create a new sublayer of moderating that allows people to deal with just that.

Let me explain.
I believe the system should be based on Appointed members with a long history of Unbiased Critisim and who have been Repped accordingly and are Active.
We put these select people into a Different user group called "Power user's" and give them Limited ability on how the forums are run.
They can lock, edit posts and give out Warns no greater then 2 points. And if the power use's Vote unaminously they have the power to suspend people for a limited amount of time.... and thats all they can do.

That way they cant get out of hand, abuse there powers yet can go a long way to help the tidy up general maintenace.

I think that's a really good idea. It could also serve to greatly streamline the selection of new moderators... whoever does really well as a power user.

rep for you >:U

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LOL