but i am le tired.
i seriously need to take a nap first, school drained me.
I WILL RETURN.
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but i am le tired.
i seriously need to take a nap first, school drained me.
I WILL RETURN.
Either do the patterns nowhere, or everywhere. Be consistent - it helps.
Sever, realize what you're saying. there ARE patterns everywhere. that's how the roads are segmented in NMC, and thats how they're going to be segmented in this map. Stop being so bloody critical about the creases and think of the complete picture, otherwise you will never be able to make such a large and detailed map yourself--it'll take too bloody long. I've had enough of this--i always welcome people's crit, its what changed the hog barrel for example--but when its able something retarded thats carried out for a few pages then its just silly. I listened to you before, but im going to ignore the complete argument of the bloody road creases now because i'd rather make progress on the map. Capice?
Good. Part of me was just having fun with how everyone reacted to it (what can I say, I'm playfully evil), but I'm actually fine with how it is. Keep at it, with this and any other projects you're working on, and keep showing us stuff at will. Also, any chance of doing an HRH version of No Remorse? Along with the HRH treatment, just a few bsp fixes and scaling issues would make that map even more amazing.
oh don't lie you dog, i can see what you're doing you sly thing you ;)
If i did a no remorse it would take a while--but we're assuming i do this after NMC, so at least i'll have textures and detail objects out the wazoo to help.
I see what you did there :downs:Quote:
Originally Posted by n00b1n8R
I like the road patterns tbh....makes it seem more..."wtf-ey." And thats what a sci-fi game is for.....
look like it's gonna be awesome Wave of lag, hopefully i wil lhave my new computer when this comes out.... but i think i'm gonna get my computer after this summer.(have to earn money at summer work)
keep up the great work Wave!:D
If you change the pattern on the road I will eat your brain. I will eat it. I'd fucking punch it and then eat it. I'd fucking step on it then punch it and eat it. So don't change the pattern.
Well, have a nap...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wave of Lag
...DEN FIRE ZE MISSILES!
:downs:Quote:
Originally Posted by ExAm
Had some time to do some work on this, among other things.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2369/omgwow3sg7.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3181/omglulz2bh3.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9189/lolzomguk1.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8...sdfasdfyn3.jpg
Everything is still very much a WIP.
everything looks nice but theres something about the parking garage in the second pic that seems almost out of place. i cant really explain it. or maybe just move the building back alttle.
Quite a lot of 'W' is evident, judging by the amount of 'P' in this WIP. I agree with the garage looking wrong, though. Even though many parts of the MP H2 level, Terminal, don't make much sense as to how they are placed pertaining to each other, still take a look at the parking garage in it, and emulate it slightly. Yours needs a bit more function built into its design. Its made to safely hold vehicles - give it some guard rails or cables (like the ones on ship decks, so the view won't be greatly obstructed for incoming and outgoing fire) and some more supporting columns (just not so much that they will provide ample cover - the garage is still meant to have risk to it).Quote:
Originally Posted by Wave of Lag
Otherwise, I'm honestly really liking everything else. Keep it up, but don't burn yourself out on it.
Looks like epic fun, great work.
I would have done that with the garage, but i have the keep the gameplay as sterile as possible. The old NMC didnt have rails, so this wont have rails, sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by sever323
On the different buildings, you should have those hanging-glass panels with advertisements and shit on them.
Can I advertise? Ill pay money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boba
its odd you say that boba, i was actually going to do that...
Looks good. I can't wait to check out the finished product. :)
oh sure. ill throw up a few templates tomorrow for some bulletin boards etc etc. i dunno about the money thing tho ;0Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
Make the ads projected holograms. It is the future after all. If you can get away with having fucked-up roads, you can surely have holo-ads. lol
But the roads arn't fucked up. You just don't like them.
I like the roads. >:(
Idk what it is but to me everything look randomly placed, I mean great modeling but idk what it is thats making it all look out of place. Im thinking where its all missing textures.
What, you mean it actually works for gameplay now? RL Geometry != good gameplay.Quote:
Originally Posted by PopeAK49
And you just don't like ninja-text. I already resolved the whole road issue a while back in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
Hehe I get it... :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeph
If you resolved it, why bring it back up. And sorry if I don't highlight EVERY post I read.
shush masters, you could have just left it at severs last post.
Im going to end up adding more detail in the form of some objects later on after a few gameplay tests, which wont happen as long as i cant figure out how to model a few parts on the outer boundaries of the level. The stuff inside is a cakewalk, but making realistic BOUNDARIES for the level, now thats hard stuff.
either use large barricades like i did with veblensk and extend the city beyond those, or block them off with architecture and closed off highway entrance tunnels.
Maybe something along the same lines of - but slightly less sinister and destructive than - the Combine barricades from HL2.
Do not extend what you can see of the city.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnaFuBAR
no you see i could have already done all those, but it has to be big enough to block out banshees as well. Oh well, might as well just make an invisible wall.
I though the Banshees weren't getting put in. :gonk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wave of Lag
i didnt say anything works for gameplay, but even though something could look so realistic, and well design (not saying this map sux at gameplay.) it can still sux at gameplay. Even though this map is a wip i do hope this is epic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeph
what made you think that? banshees are a great aspect of the map.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobtheGreatII
lol thats not what you said at the start of the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wave of Lag
it's what he's always said
NBC without a shee or two is like the MC without any balls.
does not work.
the maps large enough and theres enough cover all over the place to avoid them.
of NMC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wave of Lag
O-o, they fucking RUINED the map and its game play.
THe only bag thing about banhsees in NMC was flag caps. They were awsome otherwise, and they never have been that ahrd to take down.
That settles it - just make them not spawn standard on CTF.
what are you talking about? they made it better. I thinky you never USED the shees, so you never REALIZED how good they were. You could use them in the beginning of a game to quickly get to the parking structure, rocket launcher, etc--you could use them for ctf rushes, defense, they were critical to the maps size.Quote:
Originally Posted by StankBacon™
I dont remember if they get spawned in normal CTF in NMC, but if they do, they'll spawn here. Guys, stop arguing the gameplay--i'm not changing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sever323
lol yur rong nubQuote:
Originally Posted by M-562
Banshees make the map awesome. I was always in one, and they are balanced.
From the same people that brought you classics such as Hugeass and Coldsnap, comes a map so utterly unbalanced, it defies explanation.Quote:
Banshees make the map awesome
what? fatso, you made no sense right there.
Please explain what you just said fatso, because me nor Wave of Lag haven't got a clue...
What fatso is saying is that Banshees are what makes a map's gameplay go down the shitter. And comparing what they made this map to Coldsnap or Hugeass.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatso784
Also, I don't think saying "I'm keeping the way I like it, I don't care about other's opinions" is very good at all. Maybe you could edit the banshee's capabilities in the map, or edit spawns (Like sever said).
Or add a homing rocket... Because banshees can still dodge homing rockets. Saves people crying about banshee noobs.
and creates the new problem of people crying about being owned by rockets that also home in on bipeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by WMHunterTLS
Yup, good point. Just stick a Spartan Laser in there. Lol. Sorted.
no.Quote:
Originally Posted by JunkfoodMan
Quote:
Originally Posted by WMHunterTLS
no.
NO.Quote:
Originally Posted by WMHunterTLS
Jesus Christ, the banshee isn't some fucking flying juggernaut capable of blowing up the Earth.
...at least, it isn't when the people on the ground have some iota of skill and/or high explosive. :v
But seriously, banshee's staying in according to WoL. If you don't like it, simply change your gametype setting to not include the banshee. This isn't like the XBox version where you're limited to all or no vehicles. :v
U.
couldnt resist mate.
look WOL has been very specific about his dos and dont with this map. he also knows how great this map was to play.
you dont try to out-do a classic when you remake it.
or you just end up with something shit like Coagulation.
he said no gameplay changes period. so back off and let the man do his thing.
E: god dammit polar bear >:U!
You can easily take a banshee down with bullets anyway lol.
It's so simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
You know what I just realized?
I have never played NMC. EVER.
:gonk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay2645
GO AND DO IT NOW.
meh i never really liked it.
it's just too big.
The gun on the hog looks awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wave of Lag
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Originally Posted by Boba
How oddly specific :>
Alright, I'm here to clarify what I said earlier (btw sorry about that, I was on a posting spree :D). Banshees are great in the right map, especially if its large with lots of scenery, as long as you have ground weapons capable of taking it out. Now, when you add too many banshees and the banshee becomes the focus of the map, we've got a problem...
Then again, I'm sure Wave of Lag already knows this.
I dont think you were around for the 5+ hour long NMC games constantly full of 16 guys all going nuts. Those were some of the best games in HCE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweek
dont worry, banshees will NEVER be the focus of this map, as long as we also have our scorpions.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatso784
TeeKup wants scorpion rape please.
ROFL!!!
That's all for you teek.
They should've flipped the bottom tank while they were still on eachother =D
I think banshees should have disco lights hanging off of each wing.
rofl....tank babies....look like mongeese...er..mongooses....mongies.
Dude I'm completely speechless on that video
damn...I thought since your post rolled over that I missed a video of the epicness of this mod...but then my brain said that its too early to be posting stuff like that.
They grow guns and treads when they hit puberty :awesome:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathen
You know what kinda sucks, all the renders from far back in the topic are never going to look as good in the game because of the lack of good lighting in CE. How much of the shadows and what not can actually be put into the final map (HEK noob here).
Lightmaps and shadows can be baked onto the map, AFAIK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy
Trust me on this one, it's not hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy
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Originally Posted by Wave of Lag
when is this sexyness of a map gonna be released?:)
because i'm probably not gonna get my New computer til like Later october-early November.:( and 'm not going to run it on this computer thats for sure.. lolz.
but, it looks awesome WOV great Job.:D
Did he just call WOL a Vag? Also, don't quote pictures.
how do i make the lil "show" and "hide" buttons for pictures?:embarrassed:Quote:
Originally Posted by sever323
Nice curves baby.
Spoiler tags. But there's no need to even do that here, since they are pictures of the only piece of work in the topic.
how are you going to wall off the level. Ive mad many city maps in my past and the hardest part to them is making the boundaries look nature, not just a sheer wall.
In the old Gallery thread, you said that you would have music playing at each base or something similar. From what I can remember, there were songs like "Rock You Like A Hurricane" "Barracuda" and "Welcome to the Jungle". Are you still implementing this?
If you are you should implement a button into the in-game menu to turn it on/off, by having it activate a script. That way when I get annoyed by epic songs in-game playing over my epic songs playing already I can turn it off ;p
Or, you could simply have them properly tagged as in-game music, much like Swan Lake that can be heard playing in the Sniper Tower of Yoyorast Island (if you have in-game music turned on).
hey, that was my idea :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay2645
I seem to remember that I came up with the playlist, though. However, that thread is history, so I can't get my old playlist back.
exactly what i said. I have some ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
i dunno, i think ill do one of those lego island type things where theres a jukebox that you press to play music.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timo
ill find the playlist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay2645
it was my original idea, you just took it and ran with it, i already suggested rock you like a hurricane you just took to it and added more songs and submitted it as a playlist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay2645
:p
Man, I wanna make a playlist. :saddowns:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay2645
k, I haven't seen many pictures of your map so far but how big are your buildings. Bungie did a good job on outskirts i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wave of Lag
Yeah, I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by ßðÐŻÍ££å
Let's see here, I can write up a new one:
Red:
Rock You Like a Hurricane - Scorpions
Barracuda - Heart
Welcome to the Jungle - Guns N' Roses
Holiday in Cambodia - Dead Kennedys
Fear of the Dark - Iron Maiden
Enter Sandman - Metallica
Headstrong - Trapt
Bring Your Own Bee- I mean B.Y.O.B. - System of a Down
I Wanna Be Sedated - The Ramones
The Pretender - Foo Fighters
Blue:
Down With the Sickness - Disturbed
Land of Confusion (Preferably the Disturbed Cover, but you can go all Genesis if you want)
Sweet Child of Mine - Guns N' Roses
The Metal - Tenacious D
The Number of the Beast - Iron Maiden
Miss Murder - AFI (Skip to 1:47 in the video for it)
Bodies - Drowning Pool
Surrender - Cheap Trick
Anarchy in the U.K. - Sex Pistols
Back in Black - AC/DC
hey i swear i remember there was all that remains on one of the playlists, i demand you edit it accordingly :p
I doubt the map will even compile if you have that many songs in the map. Plus, the fileseize would be huge.
Hey everyone.
Look, I'm working on a similar idea (except it's more about making a new map).
WOL, how do you plan on advancing the shaders and lighting of Halo. I've gone high and low to figure out ways of doing so.
So far, it's possible to go and export all assets of halo, and render them through a differnet engine (i looked into the crysis engine, cryENGINE2). But this is illeagal and very difficult.
How do you plan on creating a new shader quality????
Thanks
If the map has one bsp, you can ignore all of those tagsize related errors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
We're talking about the same thing right? Last I tried using tool_pro to ignore tagspace issues, the mp map just exceptioned on me.
I haven't had any troubles with it.
I really dont need to make new shaders. The vehicles will be very simply skinned, no light info in the bitmaps, with most of the detail in the model. The BSPs, which can handle normal maps, will take full use of normal maps. My goal is to respect the engine and not do any funky crap with it past putting new content in.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryan_mckenzie
The buildings are lifesize. They're big.Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
Im interested in how you are going to do so. I can't wait to see.