High-Resolution-Halo

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Originally Posted by ItsMeTerror

Sorry to say if you don't care so much get your ass off the forums and don't come back.

Until you can prove me wrong in many places I will never come to the conclusion of ever liking you.

Now go cry some more. :fuckoff:

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Actually, most of the time i do spend off the forums, and i've never needed help getting off the forums (unlike you, mr banned and then pleaded to come back).

And if you understood the post (which is to say, you really didnt) it was about how much of an rats ass (none) i gave about the people freaking out about me not posting a debug. Honestly, it wasnt a conspiracy, it was just not worth my time to post a debug to a person who judged evo on a pre-alpha unfinished-visualization stage compared to his released mod, and an old friend who thinks everything i do goes with conspiracy (yes, you rob ;P )

And sorry, i don't cry or even get barely emotional over things that won't end up changing my life or a close one's life for the worst. Apparently too many people nowdays don't respect themselves enough to hold in the tears over the small things, eh terror?

Also, off the record--i have nothing against you terror, even though you foolishly got involved between me and my ex, even though you foolishly ignored many a people trying to help and, and even though you foolishly walked into this topic, posted that disrespectful spew, and hoped that you would look like a badass stating his opinion. If you said that to my face without a good explanation, and continued that behaviour even though the subject would be dropped, your balls would be kicked so far up you would be sneezing white stuff. But, it appears that your testes are yet to drop and are firmly held in place by what im guessing to be whitey tighties.

OH! PERSONAL ATTACK! That ones for you, bod.

Alright, public entertainment over, shittoss done. Terror, if you are really intent on wasting not just my time, but your own, feel free to pm me. ITS FREE!

could we get a poly count? :-3

E: Zeph i want an infraction!

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Originally Posted by Ki11a_FTW

could we get a poly count? :-3

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40302, my good sir

dammit people
on topic now
I've had to delete posts after f5'ing three times now.

:O, kickass, i have very high expectations for this wol, don't let me down!

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Originally Posted by Wave of Lag

40302, my good sir

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you need about 50,000 more polies bro, i'm not running this on my laptop.

Wow, I really wasn't expecting it to look that good. I'm with dg, I'm reinstalling CE (again) for this.

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Originally Posted by SnaFuBAR

you need about 50,000 more polies bro, i'm not running this on my laptop.

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It's just the BSP, not counting scenery and crap.

i don't care, pump this shit up mang.

dude, there's gonna be at least 150k of detail objects that are sceneried for LOD's etc, so im trying to keep the main thing down. Also, max renderable tris in one frame is hardcoded into the engine and a BITCH to work with in such an open map. I'm practically done modelling save for a few things, then im going to work my ass off to portal it.

halo starts to stop rendering faces around 20000(which can be fixed by portals), i dont think it could even compile 100000 :-o

well, it doesnt 'compile' 100k, it compiles the individual model instances, and its up to the engine to render it. TIME TO PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT.

WALK ALONG THE RAZORS EDGE.

Seriously though, this looks baby-stomping awesome. Keep gon!

Heh, that reminds me when somebody said i should go with my plan to line the streets with dead babies or something like that.

Oh, the controversy in this topic.

Also, used heroin needles.

Don't forget the Bob Marley billboards!

And the hookers.
But really. Textures can make or break a map.

I hope you dont get this far and then it looks shitty.

E: also, 5 REPPIES.

me? texturing shitty? come on. Look at those shnazzy roads.

Rainbow Mombasa, now for the straights...

Build a rough test map and let me play it.

Oh wait, I'm just saying what everyone, minus some attention seeking kid, is thinking. Fuck.

No. The day you get touretts and become a pedo is the day you start saying what I am thinking.

Me and NMC junkie Dal just compared notes on NMC, we ran through the map and he reminded me of a few things. Updates to a few things soon!

I have to say that the addition of the out-of-map area around the map is great; many CE maps lack that extra atmosphere, and I always liked the extra details Bungie threw into their Halo 3 maps in the forms of unreachable areas.

Portals are still quite screwy, and I know there isn't much you can do about it, especially right now, since you'll be adding and subtracting from the map as time goes on. The tops of the bases have a tendency to flicker in and out of existence as you walk around.

You're missing the buildings that should go right next to the hog cages across from both bases.

For your next test build, please use a sky that illuminates everything (no shadows)? I can't see a lot of things very well and I get disoriented easily trying to figure out how things look.

There's plenty that still needs to be modeled and portaled, obviously. I didn't get disoriented easily (but I am fairly visual, take that for what you will), and I think it's worth trying to recapture the atmosphere of NMC (noticeable shading, but nothing too dark). I think it's worth noting that the build ran fine on both my 8800 and my laptop's punier 7600 GO; so even with triple the polies (+ texture space) I don't think it'll pose a threat to modern hardware, at least not more than NMC did when it first came out.

i had absolutely no problems on my 512mb x2600xt other than the aforementioned portaling errors.

Snaf...will I be able to play this?

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Originally Posted by Dal

There's plenty that still needs to be modeled and portaled, obviously. I didn't get disoriented easily (but I am fairly visual, take that for what you will), and I think it's worth trying to recapture the atmosphere of NMC (noticeable shading, but nothing too dark). I think it's worth noting that the build ran fine on both my 8800 and my laptop's punier 7600 GO; so even with triple the polies (+ texture space) I don't think it'll pose a threat to modern hardware, at least not more than NMC did when it first came out.

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Dark shading, i agree. I was thinking of maybe dusk so i could bring out some colors.

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Originally Posted by p0lar_bear

I have to say that the addition of the out-of-map area around the map is great; many CE maps lack that extra atmosphere, and I always liked the extra details Bungie threw into their Halo 3 maps in the forms of unreachable areas.

Portals are still quite screwy, and I know there isn't much you can do about it, especially right now, since you'll be adding and subtracting from the map as time goes on. The tops of the bases have a tendency to flicker in and out of existence as you walk around.

You're missing the buildings that should go right next to the hog cages across from both bases.

For your next test build, please use a sky that illuminates everything (no shadows)? I can't see a lot of things very well and I get disoriented easily trying to figure out how things look.

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At moment--the only 'portals' were the exact portals, and i dont believe they were even working. So, the errors you saw were simply the engine overflowing. Polar, i dont know what you're talking about, you should turn up your gamma--i can see everything. And yes, im actually missing 4 buildings.



Let's look at my checklist:

• Finish modelling the buildings (the corner by the base, and the highway sided buildings)
• Shrink the highway entrance and make it merge into the lanes, not become the lane
• Finish modelling the bases (the garage, the extra paths)
• Fix the starcases of hell
• Finish the Parking Structure
• Finish the connecting section of one of the outlying buildings
• Make curbs lower
• Finish walkways from base to adjacent buildings
• Finish pathway along the buildings to OS
• Model highway doors (and overhead FRG place thing)
• Finish the doors and energy field thingy to serve as boundary markers for map

Anything i forgot, guys?

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Originally Posted by Ki11a_FTW

could we get a poly count? :-3

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Originally Posted by Wave of Lag

40302, my good sir

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OH COME ON. ARE YOU F***ING SERIOUS? AN INSTANTANEOUS RESPONSE?! IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY TO DRIVE ME CRAZY!

The transparency on those renders makes it kind of hard to see what's going on in there, but it's still damn cool looking. May I ask what technique you used for that?
eee: oh ok, now i understand the renders. nvm.

Also, I'm very impressed that you've kept it down to 40k. Now I'm willing to believe that you'll actually get this to work, especially if you do a lot of your detail in LOD'd scenery. +rep if I can.

e: your rep get reset, WoL? ,':|
ee: *looks more closely* oic. well fine, don't have my +rep! >=U

I'm not getting excited till I see some ingame pictures. We know you are a beast at modelling, but this is called high res halo. Not high res render that might go into halo on a good day?

I have my doubts, but still, good job so far.

ohoho, without a problem, limited. BRB, going ingame.

Very Nice, hopefully well see ingame by the end of the day no?

Let's hope so...also :O Terror has two neg rep bars. LMFAO I've never seen that before in my life EVER!

Leorimolo, its been ingame for about 12 hours approx.

so post ingame pics ffs. :mad:

HAHA, I guess IM'ing his post around worked.
E:about terrors rep.

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Originally Posted by Wave of Lag

Leorimolo, its been ingame for about 12 hours approx.

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I demand pictures nao

pics am uploading :saddowns:

Upload faster. Switch ISP's right now or something.

I actually want the neg rep bars, I want more than Ghost.:D E: He has +Rep now D:
It's nice to hear you have it in-game.
I'm glad you have nothing against me WOL, to be honest I don't have anything against you either. I just at random times like to cause hell whether it be with you or anyone else in the forums. :eyesroll:
It will be nice to have something good released in the HCE community since it hasn't seen much lately. I'm also tired of seeing all those stupid maps get released on Halomaps. You should make some stuff for H2V also and bring it out of the shit hole.
:dramabomb:

ahhhahahah, i didnt know you could get 2 red bars

and wol, Ingame pix plox

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Originally Posted by ItsMeTerror

hell weather

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Like a hurricane?

Yes indeed!

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Originally Posted by ItsMeTerror

I actually want the neg rep bars, I want more than Ghost.:D E: He has +Rep now D:
It's nice to hear you have it in-game.
I'm glad you have nothing against me WOL, to be honest I don't have anything against you either. I just at random times like to cause hell whether it be with you or anyone else in the forums. :eyesroll:
It will be nice to have something good released in the HCE community since it hasn't seen much lately. I'm also tired of seeing all those stupid maps get released on Halomaps. You should make some stuff for H2V also and bring it out of the shit hole.
:dramabomb:

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Oh shut the fuck up, you drama queen. Just get out. I don't want none of that "OH I WANT MORE NEG REP IT DOESNT MATTER DO IT" shit. Just get out. Maybe once you grow up you'll realize you cant say "OH SORRY LEMME TRY AGAIN I WONT BE A BITCH THIS TIME I PROMISE!" Because in reality, nobody gives a fuck :)
















As you can see in a few pics, sometimes the geometry pops--but a lot less than before, so progress is good.

WoL, you going to re skin the banshee? And other vehicles?

Would you use a Halo 3 Ghost model?

I thought you were not going to have a banshee in the High Res Halo Maps.

In Fact...

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Originally Posted by Wave of Lag

shee is gay, you are gay

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-edit-

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Wave of Lag again.

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I never said give me another chance. I do out of all seriousness want the -rep

GAH STFU


Also...is that the visor thing on everything? Looks like a lavalamp.

I wish I was cute enough for WoL to be a part of this. :'[

I remember the last build.... or the last one you let me see.


Lol gold.

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Originally Posted by Hunter

WoL, you going to re skin the banshee? And other vehicles?

Would you use a Halo 3 Ghost model?

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look at the first page for stuff we're going to remodel, and no, we wouldn't use a halo 3 model.

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Originally Posted by ItsMeTerror

I never said give me another chance. I do out of all seriousness want the -rep

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seriously, stop posting. posting goes on the thought that people actually want to hear your opinion, which is deadly wrong.

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Originally Posted by Heathen

Like a hurricane?

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No, like a himmicane.

:v:

WIN!

sexy map is sexy

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Originally Posted by Wave of Lag

seriously, stop posting. posting goes on the thought that people actually want to hear your opinion, which is deadly wrong.

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I have my right here to post just as everyone else does.

Then just stop being a fuck up and we wont care >_>

And tell me your not a fuck up so I can redirect your attention to your little red bars. But lo and behold...Mr iwantnegativerep has hidden that which he wanted >.> E: (the little worm has unhidden it >.<)

Srs dude. I didnt start out hating you. Respect is something that is earned....so is disrespect.





ANYWAYS!


What is next in this map collection?

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Originally Posted by ItsMeTerror

I have my right here to post just as everyone else does.

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First, posting here is a privilige. You've already been banned once, so that statement coming from you holds even less wieght.

Second, he has just as much of a "right" to tell you that you're not wanted here.


Mr. Wol, I do hope the next time we have a beta that there are less collision holes :V

Geometry popping not cool.

:-(

Seriously though, it's hard to even play because of the holes that keep appearing and reappearing. I do really love the modeling. It brings me back!

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Originally Posted by ItsMeTerror

I have my right here to post just as everyone else does.

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Actually, you dont. You have no clue what rights are.

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Originally Posted by teh lag

First, posting here is a privilige. You've already been banned once, so that statement coming from you holds even less wieght.

Second, he has just as much of a "right" to tell you that you're not wanted here.


Mr. Wol, I do hope the next time we have a beta that there are less collision holes :V

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Wut collision holes, theres only rendering holes <_<

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Originally Posted by Heathen

Then just stop being a fuck up and we wont care >_>

And tell me your not a fuck up so I can redirect your attention to your little red bars. But lo and behold...Mr iwantnegativerep has hidden that which he wanted >.> E: (the little worm has unhidden it >.<)

Srs dude. I didnt start out hating you. Respect is something that is earned....so is disrespect.





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What is next in this map collection?

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Next in the line of maps would be Longest--i need a good small map to do before i go insane with this huge one.

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Originally Posted by dg

Geometry popping not cool.

:-(

Seriously though, it's hard to even play because of the holes that keep appearing and reappearing. I do really love the modeling. It brings me back!

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baww, it doesnt pop THAT much!

For Longest, I'm guessing that you'll be keeping the Forerunner theme, but detailing the playable area and expanding the non-playable area, right? If you need any help with giving the map better function to its form, and vice versa, feel free to ask me.

"Probably Late Summer 2008"

LOL. xD

Offtopic, who noticed that terror actually got 2 red bars without an admin doing it.

lol

who noticed he's banned? :awesome:

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Originally Posted by Sever

For Longest, I'm guessing that you'll be keeping the Forerunner theme, but detailing the playable area and expanding the non-playable area, right? If you need any help with giving the map better function to its form, and vice versa, feel free to ask me.

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Im a bit confused on pretty much your whole post. I'm just upressing it.

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Originally Posted by SnaFuBAR

who noticed he's banned? :awesome:

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:lol:

And no one i know deserved it more.

So, WoL, what will you be doing to Longest's BSP then, if anything? If all you're doing is retexturing, then where's the point in that?

he's making the mesh higher resolution...

since when does upressing only count as upping just the textures?

That's why I asked what you'll be changing with the BSP. Let me rephrase myself. How will you change the Longest, which is currently just a bunch of flat walls with insets/bevels/chamfers and a few pits and ramps, into a high-detail, yet still snagless playing area? Also, will you be doing anything to give the level a purpose? Right now, it is just a long hallway that has not much to it to make it appear Forerunner other than a limited number of angular areas and the standard textures.

Anyone else posting about Terror, at Terror, or Terror posting anything else in this thread that's not directly related to the map will be met with a kick to the eGroin. Even if it contains content relevant to the thread.

That is all.

Terror.

:v:

Anyways, nice looking map WOL. I can't wait to play it. Lets just hope that my POS can run it. It's not that shitty, though. I hope a x1650 with a POS processor with about 15 bugs can run it.

Woo, we just ironed out a bazillion things, or one big thing. So map quality +++.

why would you even waste your time on Longest?
redo prisoner or something instead.

NMC looks real nice... rather see clay renders though.

Longest is a fun map until the faggot server admins do it wrong and cram 16 people in there for KOTH matches. Honestly, I'm for chaotic games and everything, but there is a fine line between "chaotic and fast-paced" and "shitty grenade spamfest."

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Originally Posted by p0lar_bear

Longest is a fun map until the faggot server admins do it wrong and cram 16 people in there for KOTH matches. Honestly, I'm for chaotic games and everything, but there is a fine line between "chaotic and fast-paced" and "shitty grenade spamfest."

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Through experiance I've learned that KOTH will always be a nadefest. It's pretty much the essence of the gametype. Winning proves you are the best at surviving 10+ nades blowing off in your face.

Well if that isn't worth bragging about, I don't know what is! :awesome:

King of the hill?

^ Quite correct.

Re-do Damnation next. I want to see that map in 600000000 polys! :p

Damnation is probably my favorite map cause it has a lot more variety and its one of the more complex levels in halo. Its extremely entertaining on some game type. Personally i love Team Elim Invis Snipers. Its crazy.

Derelict, mine by far.

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Derelict, mine by far.

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Derelicts a fun snipers map. But i always felt it was too open for regular slayer.

Yes do Damnation... best damn map in the game

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Originally Posted by Sever

That's why I asked what you'll be changing with the BSP. Let me rephrase myself. How will you change the Longest, which is currently just a bunch of flat walls with insets/bevels/chamfers and a few pits and ramps, into a high-detail, yet still snagless playing area? Also, will you be doing anything to give the level a purpose? Right now, it is just a long hallway that has not much to it to make it appear Forerunner other than a limited number of angular areas and the standard textures.

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Also this. I'm curious how to plan to add more detail to Longest without changing the gameplay.

Unless you do plan on changing the gameplay.

Why you guys so excited about longest. I never really saw any good game play in it... but then again i only played it like twice.

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Originally Posted by Sever

That's why I asked what you'll be changing with the BSP. Let me rephrase myself. How will you change the Longest, which is currently just a bunch of flat walls with insets/bevels/chamfers and a few pits and ramps, into a high-detail, yet still snagless playing area? Also, will you be doing anything to give the level a purpose? Right now, it is just a long hallway that has not much to it to make it appear Forerunner other than a limited number of angular areas and the standard textures.

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Heh, ill do it the same way i did NMC, only in a forerunner style. But im actually thinking of asking Mass to do it, because he knows forerunner better than me.

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Originally Posted by DOMINATOR

why would you even waste your time on Longest?
redo prisoner or something instead.

NMC looks real nice... rather see clay renders though.

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You know, i should ask neuro if he minds us taking that old redone prisoner bsp of his and using it for HRH...

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Originally Posted by p0lar_bear

Longest is a fun map until the faggot server admins do it wrong and cram 16 people in there for KOTH matches. Honestly, I'm for chaotic games and everything, but there is a fine line between "chaotic and fast-paced" and "shitty grenade spamfest."

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Don't you remember the flamethrower only/pp only KOTH games on Longest? best thing EVER.

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Originally Posted by wanksta(-=Inferno=-)

Re-do Damnation next. I want to see that map in 600000000 polys! :p

Damnation is probably my favorite map cause it has a lot more variety and its one of the more complex levels in halo. Its extremely entertaining on some game type. Personally i love Team Elim Invis Snipers. Its crazy.

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You know, i was considering damnation, as its one of my favorites too. But one question--should i keep the covenant style, or go for a human style?

Keep it covenant, but style it like halo 3 covie architecture. Make it more round and organic that would be beautiful. I would nerdgasm :lol:

Do damnation covered in flood shit, complete with sphincters.

sphincters_door.device_machine FTW!

Lmao, if I had rep power I'd +rep both of you.

heh, flood shit...good idea :D

:fail: look what you guys did

but yeah, flood would be good for a level like damnation

everybody but me got to test it.
sad rob is sad. :saddowns:

You know, come to think of it, I've seen gorgeous human, forerunner, and covenant levels in Halo CE, but I've never seen a well done flood level. Except for one, I forget what it was called, but it seemed more of a proof of concept than anything else, and was very minimalistic.

Of course there's a good reason there have been no good flood levels (that I've seen), and that's because it's really friggin hard to do that sort of organic material. But... We choose to go to the moon and do the other things not because they are easy but because they are hard! did I get that quote right?

If you pull it off, I will be very impressed. I say go for it.

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Originally Posted by Rob Oplawar

everybody but me got to test it.
sad rob is sad. :saddowns:

You know, come to think of it, I've seen gorgeous human, forerunner, and covenant levels in Halo CE, but I've never seen a well done flood level. Except for one, I forget what it was called, but it seemed more of a proof of concept than anything else, and was very minimalistic.

Of course there's a good reason there have been no good flood levels (that I've seen), and that's because it's really friggin hard to do that sort of organic material. But... We choose to go to the moon and do the other things not because they are easy but because they are hard! did I get that quote right?

If you pull it off, I will be very impressed. I say go for it.

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You forgot me to but I'm a nobody :(

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Originally Posted by Rob Oplawar

everybody but me got to test it.

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So I guess I've become your alt now? Cool.

Only about 10 or so people played on the last one--most if not all just because they were NMC junkies who helped to point out a lot of errors to me.

Damnation, along with Chill Out is my favourite map too. Ideas for Dammy:
1. Scary, little dark, symbiot styled flood&covenant map.
2. Covenant styled, lots of "neon" lights here and there. Very colorful.

The images just came to my mind. Just so you know.

Well, i was planning on that anyway, so no worries.

Pretty sweet. Also, needs moar mental ray lightmaps.

Holy Shitakke mushrooms, Batman!

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Originally Posted by Wave of Lag

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I don't think sidewalks would be made of titanium-A armor plating :|

Looks like an awesome corner.

I expect great gameplay. ;-)